Saturday, September 17, 2016

Mark Penn, Hillary Clinton and Patti Solis Doyle Founders of the Birther Movement.

So let me get this straight. Donald Trump says Okay you showed me the Birth Certificate Case Closed
Hillary says Donald Started The Birther Movement Case Closed

But I remember way back in 2008 when Hillary was running she said Obama's Birth Certificate was questionable.

I am not wearing that aluminium foil hat that Hillary wears and I didn't have that fall.  I can't blame that on my misinformation from my concussion or Pneumonia, like Hillary does. I am not rich enough to say Oh I didn't do it and hide the paper behind me . hand to my "aide" Huma Abedin while she hands that same Top Secret paper to ISIS and gets away with it.

But we all know Hillary lies and lies and lies.
From the Washington Times....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/16/clinton-08-campaign-manager-admits-birther-connect/

Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle admitted on Twitter and in a cable interview Friday that a Clinton staffer had indeed spread the rumor that President Barack Obama was born outside of the United States.
The admission came after a heated exchange Friday afternoon with Ari Fleischer, George W. Bush’s former spokesman, who was pressing Ms. Doyle for the truth that Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 campaign was responsible for creating a whisper campaign in the press that Mr. Obama was ineligible for the presidency.
Ms. Doyle told Mr. Feischer it was a “lie” that the campaign spread the rumors, but then admitted in the same tweet a 2008 staffer had indeed sent an email spreading the birther conspiracy.
“@AriFleischer I fired the rouge [sic] & I called [Mr. Obama’s campaign manager] @davidplouffe to apologize 4 said rouge,” Ms. Doyle tweeted in response to Mo Elleithee, Ms. Clinton’s former traveling press secretary, who said: “The one rouge staffer who sent an email was fired pretty damn quick.”
Ms. Doyle appeared about an hour later on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to address the issue once again. She denied that Hillary Clinton had started the birther theory — then admitted that someone in the Clinton campaign had, in fact, been involved.
“There was a volunteer coordinator, I believe, in late 2007, I believe, in December, one of our volunteer coordinators in one of the counties in Iowa — I don’t recall whether they were an actual paid staffer, but they did forward an email that promoted the conspiracy,” Ms. Doyle said.







http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/11/atlantic.clinton.staff/index.html
  • STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Mark Penn was Sen. Hillary Clinton's chief strategist until April
  • Penn wanted to highlight Obama's lack of "American roots," memo says
  • Magazine says documents show staff infighting, Clinton's indecisiveness
  • Clinton didn't pursue Penn strategy, The Atlantic magazine says

Memos show Clinton camp lines of attack, disarray


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton's one-time chief strategist wanted to attack Sen. Barack Obama for lacking "American roots" during the Democratic primary battle, according to a magazine article set to be published online Monday evening.

"All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared towards showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting that in a new light. Save it for 2050," Mark Penn, then Clinton's chief strategist, wrote in a March 2007 memo, according to an article to be published in the September edition of The Atlantic magazine.
"It also exposes a very strong weakness for him -- his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values," Penn wrote, according to the article by Joshua Green.
In the Atlantic article, which is based on internal Clinton campaign memos and e-mail messages, Green highlighted bitter fighting among Clinton's staff, writing that her advisers "couldn't execute strategy; they routinely attacked and undermined each other and Clinton never forced a resolution."
The internal communication also suggests that the lack of clear lines of authority within the campaign meant that issues that ultimately led to Clinton's defeat -- her lack of support in the Iowa caucuses, the absence of a strategy to capture delegates after the Super Tuesday primaries and her failure to prepare for a protracted primary fight -- went unaddressed for months, Green wrote.
"What is clear from the internal documents is that Clinton's loss derived not from specific decisions she made but rather from the preponderance of the many she did not make," Green wrote. "Her hesitancy and habit of avoiding hard choices exacted a price that eventually sank her chances at the presidency."
The documents also suggest the Clinton staff remained divided throughout the campaign on whether she should run a positive campaign or attack Obama and her other rivals for the Democratic nomination as being untrustworthy and underqualified, Green wrote.
"Clinton's top advisers never agreed on the answer. Over the course of the campaign, they split into competing factions that drifted in and out of Clinton's favor but always seemed to work at cross purposes. And Clinton herself could never quite decide who was right," he wrote. 
The documents also suggest the Clinton staff remained divided throughout the campaign on whether she should run a positive campaign or attack Obama and her other rivals for the Democratic nomination as being untrustworthy and underqualified, Green wrote.
"Clinton's top advisers never agreed on the answer. Over the course of the campaign, they split into competing factions that drifted in and out of Clinton's favor but always seemed to work at cross purposes. And Clinton herself could never quite decide who was right," he wrote. 

 
Howard Wolfson, the 2008 communications director for Hillary Rodham Clinton, has said he will not return for a 2016 presidential campaign. Neither, for that matter, will Neera Tanden, the campaign’s policy director. Ditto for Mark Penn, the chief strategist, and Patti Solis Doyle, the embattled campaign manager.
As core members of a dysfunctional “Team of Rivals,” these top advisers were seared, scattered and, to different degrees, forged by the 2008 experience. Haunted by the failures in management and messaging, they have worked hard to get over their shattered White House dreams and rejection by a Democratic base enamored with Barack Obama. They express their requisite hope that Clinton will run and win, but also their lack of interest in jumping back in.
Clinton, who declined to be interviewed, moved on more quickly than many of her senior staff by going to work for Obama as secretary of state. She refuses to acknowledge the 2016 speculation but has privately suggested that the obstacles to running aren’t exactly insurmountable. “She did tell me once that she was really thinking about Chelsea and [son-in-law] Marc,” said Susie Tompkins Buell, a Democratic donor and friend of Clinton, “and how she didn’t want to disrupt their lives.”
The 2008 campaign did precisely that to many of Hillaryland’s denizens. It was a campaign structure that pitted an “A team” of advisers against one another and created a climate of anxiety as a “B team” of potential outside replacements from the Clintons’ White House and Senate orbits hovered.
Now, as Clinton repositions on issues such as gay marriage, reconnects with donors and crowds out potential rivals, the nearly two dozen veterans interviewed for this article debated who among them could or would come back. That spotlights an overlooked consideration for Clinton: With the former core team apparently intent on staying out, can Clinton rebuild an inner circle capable of running and winning a presidential campaign? Will she reach into the tightknit Obama machine for talent, again borrow from her husband’s brain trust or elevate the understudies?
Philippe Reines, one of those former Senate loyalists who followed her to the State Department and is now a paid spokesman for the former first lady, dismissed speculation about a 2016 run even as he pronounced that Clinton “would be a great president and I would want to help her do that.” He also contacted veterans of the ’08 campaign and urged them to avoid anonymous sniping that would reflect poorly on Clinton, according to several people who’ve been on the receiving end and who took the request as a warning not to criticize her. (Reines denied that he policed anyone’s conversations and insisted that he only encouraged former staffers to put their names to any comments.)
He and other boosters sought to put the lingering leadership concerns to rest by pointing to Clinton’s relatively smooth tenure as secretary of state. But even he acknowledged that running an existing bureaucracy is not analogous to building a billion-dollar campaign. That leaves Clinton with only one model as a reference point if she runs for president in 2016.
“I can go into the plus sides of the theory of the Team of Rivals and the downsides of the theory of the Team of Rivals, but I don’t want to do that,” Solis Doyle said. She explained that the past was too painful and filled with “so many” traumas.
“Yeah,” she added, “PTSD.”
A surprising shift
After Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination in the summer of 2008, the famously aerophobic Howard Wolfson swallowed some anti-anxiety pills and boarded a flight to Britain. While abroad, he also continued to get over his attachment to the Democratic Party.
This was a remarkable development. A former executive director of the congressional committee to elect Democrats, Wolfson was once the driving force of the New York Democratic Party. In 2005, he labeled as traitors the Democratic supporters of Mayor Michael Bloomberg — a social liberal who was then running as a Republican. He successfully helped to lead the effort to quash Bloomberg’s push for nonpartisan elections.
For Wolfson, parties mattered. And Clinton mattered. She was the party’s presumptive nominee and his ticket to the White House.
The fall of 2007 proved especially painful for Wolfson. A disastrous Oct. 30 debate for Clinton in Philadelphia eroded her invincibility. Three days later, Wolfson’s mother, who raised him as a single parent, died at age 62. There were later episodes that led Wolfson to describe the atmosphere as a “toxic bath,” the most infamous of which involved his deputy, Phil Singer, who one day in 2008 stormed out of the war room after screaming obscenities at the Team of Rivals “cabal” from atop a chair.
After Clinton’s concession in June 2008, Wolfson joined Fox News as a contributor. Bloomberg, the self-made billionaire who by then had shed party affiliation altogether to become an independent, was seeking a controversial third term as mayor. In potentially luring Wolfson, Bloomberg’s associates saw an opportunity to both sign a talent and prevent a proven foe from working for mayoral rivals. After returning to the States, Wolfson met with Bloomberg’s right-hand man, Kevin Sheekey, at a midtown pub.
“I can go into the plus sides of the theory of the Team of Rivals and the downsides of the theory of the Team of Rivals, but I don’t want to do that,” Solis Doyle said. She explained that the past was too painful and filled with “so many” traumas.
“Yeah,” she added, “PTSD.”
A surprising shift
After Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination in the summer of 2008, the famously aerophobic Howard Wolfson swallowed some anti-anxiety pills and boarded a flight to Britain. While abroad, he also continued to get over his attachment to the Democratic Party.
This was a remarkable development. A former executive director of the congressional committee to elect Democrats, Wolfson was once the driving force of the New York Democratic Party. In 2005, he labeled as traitors the Democratic supporters of Mayor Michael Bloomberg — a social liberal who was then running as a Republican. He successfully helped to lead the effort to quash Bloomberg’s push for nonpartisan elections.
For Wolfson, parties mattered. And Clinton mattered. She was the party’s presumptive nominee and his ticket to the White House.
The fall of 2007 proved especially painful for Wolfson. A disastrous Oct. 30 debate for Clinton in Philadelphia eroded her invincibility. Three days later, Wolfson’s mother, who raised him as a single parent, died at age 62. There were later episodes that led Wolfson to describe the atmosphere as a “toxic bath,” the most infamous of which involved his deputy, Phil Singer, who one day in 2008 stormed out of the war room after screaming obscenities at the Team of Rivals “cabal” from atop a chair.
After Clinton’s concession in June 2008, Wolfson joined Fox News as a contributor. Bloomberg, the self-made billionaire who by then had shed party affiliation altogether to become an independent, was seeking a controversial third term as mayor. In potentially luring Wolfson, Bloomberg’s associates saw an opportunity to both sign a talent and prevent a proven foe from working for mayoral rivals. After returning to the States, Wolfson met with Bloomberg’s right-hand man, Kevin Sheekey, at a midtown pub.
“I can go into the plus sides of the theory of the Team of Rivals and the downsides of the theory of the Team of Rivals, but I don’t want to do that,” Solis Doyle said. She explained that the past was too painful and filled with “so many” traumas.
“Yeah,” she added, “PTSD.”
A surprising shift
After Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination in the summer of 2008, the famously aerophobic Howard Wolfson swallowed some anti-anxiety pills and boarded a flight to Britain. While abroad, he also continued to get over his attachment to the Democratic Party.
This was a remarkable development. A former executive director of the congressional committee to elect Democrats, Wolfson was once the driving force of the New York Democratic Party. In 2005, he labeled as traitors the Democratic supporters of Mayor Michael Bloomberg — a social liberal who was then running as a Republican. He successfully helped to lead the effort to quash Bloomberg’s push for nonpartisan elections.
For Wolfson, parties mattered. And Clinton mattered. She was the party’s presumptive nominee and his ticket to the White House.
The fall of 2007 proved especially painful for Wolfson. A disastrous Oct. 30 debate for Clinton in Philadelphia eroded her invincibility. Three days later, Wolfson’s mother, who raised him as a single parent, died at age 62. There were later episodes that led Wolfson to describe the atmosphere as a “toxic bath,” the most infamous of which involved his deputy, Phil Singer, who one day in 2008 stormed out of the war room after screaming obscenities at the Team of Rivals “cabal” from atop a chair.
After Clinton’s concession in June 2008, Wolfson joined Fox News as a contributor. Bloomberg, the self-made billionaire who by then had shed party affiliation altogether to become an independent, was seeking a controversial third term as mayor. In potentially luring Wolfson, Bloomberg’s associates saw an opportunity to both sign a talent and prevent a proven foe from working for mayoral rivals. After returning to the States, Wolfson met with Bloomberg’s right-hand man, Kevin Sheekey, at a midtown pub.
She said she remains close to Tanden and Wolfson, and occasionally bumps into Penn and Grunwald at Sidwell Friends, where their children go to school. She says they are polite to one another. Solis Doyle said that she received a note from Hillary Clinton when her mother died and that she sent a note when Clinton’s mother died.
“I haven’t seen her since, wow, February of ’08, maybe?” she said. “I think this is true of everybody who worked on that campaign, including her. You learn from your mistakes. If she should run again — and again I don’t know — I hope she does. I think she would learn from her mistakes.”
Solis Doyle said that she found the prospect of another Clinton presidential run “even more exciting” this time around. But she expects to be otherwise occupied with her new business ventures. Working for Clinton is not in the picture, she said. “I’m just not doing that.”
She did, however, offer her former mentor one bit of advice.
“She shouldn’t run as a front-runner.”

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